De tre viktigaste verken om WW2 nämner inget om förintelsen?

2024-03-14, 20:34 #1

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Three of the best known works on World War II history are;

General Dwight D. Eisenhower's
559 - page book titled...
CRUSADE IN EUROPE

Sir Winston Churchill's
4,448 page - six volume work titled...
THE SECOND WORLD WAR

Charles de Gaulle's
2,054 page - three volume work titled.
MEMOIRE8 de GUERRE

Published from 1948 to 1959, these books totaling 7,061 pages make no mention at all of anything related to the Jew's Holocaust story.

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2024-03-14, 20:47 #2

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Sida 408-9, Crusade in Europe

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The same day [April 12, 1945] I saw my first horror camp. It was near the town of Gotha. I have never felt able to describe my emotional reactions when I first came face to face with indisputable evidence of Nazi brutality and ruthless disregard of every shred of decency. Up to that time I had known about it only generally or through secondary sources. I am certain, however that I have never at any other time experienced an equal sense of shock.

I visited every nook and cranny of the camp because I felt it my duty to be in a position from then on to testify at first hand about these things in case there ever grew up at home the belief or assumption that `the stories of Nazi brutality were just propaganda.’ Some members of the visiting party were unable to through the ordeal. I not only did so but as soon as I returned to Patton’s headquarters that evening I sent communications to both Washington and London, urging the two governments to send instantly to Germany a random group of newspaper editors and representative groups from the national legislatures. I felt that the evidence should be immediately placed before the American and British publics in a fashion that would leave no room for cynical doubt.

Och på sida 439

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Of all these [Displaced Persons] the Jews were in the most deplorable condition. For years they had been beaten, starved, and tortured.

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2024-03-14, 20:47 #3

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Det är intressant dedär, jag råder dig att se följande filmer:

Don't be a sucker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGAqYNFQdZ4

Here is Germany: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCdyGLCXz_4

Dessa nämner Tysklands agerande och hemskheter men på ett helt annat sätt än vad som brukligt är idag. Förintelsen och fokus på judenhet finns inte alls, utan snarare en beskrivning av nazister som allmänt intoleranta mot alla statsfiender.

Att nazisterna var särskilt efter judar kan man dock se i deras egen propaganda.

Der ewige jude: https://archive.org/details/DerEwigeJude1940

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2024-03-14, 21:49 #4

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Censur och yttrandefrihet --> Revisionism
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2024-03-14, 22:27 #5

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Ursprungligen postat av Bannon

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Inget av verken nämner gaskammare eller industriellt massmord på judar. Märkligt.

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2024-03-14, 23:41 #6

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Inget av verken nämner gaskammare eller industriellt massmord på judar. Märkligt.

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...rs-arent-evid/

We consulted David Freeman, publications director at the International Churchill Society, about the post.

"I do not believe the term Holocaust had yet come into general use at the time that Churchill wrote his memoirs," Freeman said. "He most certainly did address the topic, however."

Freeman pointed us to a July 1944 letter Churchill wrote about "German plans for the massacre of the Hungarian Jews."

"There is no doubt in my mind that we are in the presence of one of the greatest and most horrible crimes ever committed," Churchill said in the letter. "It has been done by scientific machinery by nominally civilized men in the name of a great state and one of the leading races of Europe. I need not assure you that the situation has received and will receive the most earnest consideration from my colleagues and myself but, as the Foreign Secretary said, the principal hope of terminating it must remain the speedy victory of the Allied Nations."

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2024-03-15, 00:10 #7

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Ursprungligen postat av Vänlige Viktor

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We consulted David Freeman, publications director at the International Churchill Society, about the post.

"I do not believe the term Holocaust had yet come into general use at the time that Churchill wrote his memoirs," Freeman said. "He most certainly did address the topic, however."

Freeman pointed us to a July 1944 letter Churchill wrote about "German plans for the massacre of the Hungarian Jews."

"There is no doubt in my mind that we are in the presence of one of the greatest and most horrible crimes ever committed," Churchill said in the letter. "It has been done by scientific machinery by nominally civilized men in the name of a great state and one of the leading races of Europe. I need not assure you that the situation has received and will receive the most earnest consideration from my colleagues and myself but, as the Foreign Secretary said, the principal hope of terminating it must remain the speedy victory of the Allied Nations."

/VV

Ser ingen gaskammare omnämnd.

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2024-03-15, 00:22 #8

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Ser ingen gaskammare omnämnd.

Men du kan väl läsa?

German plans for the massacre of the Hungarian Jews."

Vad tror du detta handlar om?
Tyfus?

/VV

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2024-03-15, 01:32 #9

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We consulted David Freeman, publications director at the International Churchill Society[/b], about the post.

"I do not believe the term Holocaust had yet come into general use at the time that Churchill wrote his memoirs," Freeman said. "He most certainly did address the topic, however."

Freeman pointed us to a July 1944 letter Churchill wrote about "German plans for the massacre of the Hungarian Jews."

"There is no doubt in my mind that we are in the presence of one of the greatest and most horrible crimes ever committed," Churchill said in the letter. "It has been done by scientific machinery[/b] by nominally civilized men in the name of a great state and one of the leading races of Europe. I need not assure you that the situation has received and will receive the most earnest consideration from my colleagues and myself but, as the Foreign Secretary said, the principal hope of terminating it must remain the speedy victory of the Allied Nations."

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I New York Times från maj 1936 står det omnämnt om att USA ville ha judisk immigration till Palestina pga europeisk holocaust på miljoner judar.

I vanlig ordning ljuger ni. Ordet holocaust var alltså så känt 1936 att NYT använde det, långt innan Churchills brev. Dessutom i det numera kända klippet som går ingenom tiotalet tidningar mellan 1915 och 1938 så omnämns 6 miljoner judar gång på gång. Man kan ju tro att det talet är viktigt för er.

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Ursprungligen postat av Bannon

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Bra att du observerar detta. Står det ingenting om 6 miljoner döda, gaskammrare osv i deras böcker så är det uppenbart fabrikation. Att judar for illa är det nog få som tvivlar på men det gjorde ryssar, ukrainare, tyskar, polacker, balter också från 1915 till 1948.

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2024-03-15, 02:01 #10

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I New York Times från maj 1936 står det omnämnt om att USA ville ha judisk immigration till Palestina pga europeisk holocaust på miljoner judar.

I vanlig ordning ljuger ni. Ordet holocaust var alltså så känt 1936 att NYT använde det, långt innan Churchills brev.

I do not believe the term Holocaust had yet come into general use at the time that Churchill wrote his memoirs," Freeman said.

Tydligen begriper du inte vad 'general use' betyder.
Så tragiskt.

/VV

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2024-03-15, 02:25 #11

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I New York Times från maj 1936 står det omnämnt om att USA ville ha judisk immigration till Palestina pga europeisk holocaust på miljoner judar.

I vanlig ordning ljuger ni. Ordet holocaust var alltså så känt 1936 att NYT använde det, långt innan Churchills brev. Dessutom i det numera kända klippet som går ingenom tiotalet tidningar mellan 1915 och 1938 så omnämns 6 miljoner judar gång på gång. Man kan ju tro att det talet är viktigt för er.

Lite mer från länken jag gav här tidigare:

The New Republic notes that there were "smatterings of usage" of the word "holocaust" to refer to mass killings prior to World War II. "Yet for decades after the war, the genocide lacked any formal title in English except, perhaps, ‘The Final Solution,’ the term the Nazis used. In Hebrew, the calamity quickly became known as ‘Shoah,’ which means ‘catastrophe.’ But it wasn’t until the 1960s that scholars and writers began using the term ‘Holocaust,’ and it took the 1978 TV film ‘Holocaust,’ starring Meryl Streep, to push it into widespread use."

Att NYT använde ordet betyder alltså inte det du skrev.
Inte för fem öre.

Claims that Churchill’s memoirs are evidence that the Holocaust didn’t happen are unfounded, and absurd. We rate them Pants on Fire!

Children all over the United States know this simple rhyme. They say it when someone gets caught in a lie. In other words, when someone gets busted for lying.

/VV

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2024-03-15, 03:37 #12

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Lite mer från länken jag gav här tidigare:

The New Republic notes that there were "smatterings of usage" of the word "holocaust" to refer to mass killings prior to World War II. "Yet for decades after the war, the genocide lacked any formal title in English except, perhaps, ‘The Final Solution,’ the term the Nazis used. In Hebrew, the calamity quickly became known as ‘Shoah,’ which means ‘catastrophe.’ But it wasn’t until the 1960s that scholars and writers began using the term ‘Holocaust,’ and it took the 1978 TV film ‘Holocaust,’ starring Meryl Streep, to push it into widespread use."

Att NYT använde ordet betyder alltså inte det du skrev.
Inte för fem öre.

Claims that Churchill’s memoirs are evidence that the Holocaust didn’t happen are unfounded, and absurd. We rate them Pants on Fire!

Children all over the United States know this simple rhyme. They say it when someone gets caught in a lie. In other words, when someone gets busted for lying.

/VV

Finns lite att läsa om detta påstående i länken, som visar att förnekarna i vanlig ordning ljuger och försöker böja sanning och fakta till oigenkännlighet för det ska passa deras egna fanatiska tro…
http://holocaustcontroversies.blogsp...html#gcmemoirs

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